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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:33 pm 
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I have encountered several problems with hyphenation in TextMaker2012 that I don't recall having in TextMaker 2010 and that I can't figure out how to cure. One is having to remember to go to Tools and uncheck Automatic Hyphenation each time I start a new document. Why can't I set NO automatic hyphenation as my default? I almost NEVER want words broken.

Another problem is that I have always used a double hyphen for a dash. That has never been a problem before, but TextMaker has decided to hyphenate my dashes, putting one hyphen on one line and one on the next. I think it happened because I forgot to go into Tools and uncheck the Automatic Hyphenation. The only way I could find to undo this was to delete the passage and retype it after I had unchecked the automatic hyphenation.

I thought perhaps I could use a solid line for a dash and avoid the problem that way. I went into the Help file to find out how to do this, and it talked about Property Sheets, but it didn't tell me where I could find them.

Between these problems with hyphenation and the more serious problems I've been having with the bugs in TextMaker2012's handling of hyperlinks that I described (apparently in vain) in an earlier message, I'm thinking seriously of uninstalling TextMaker2012 and reinstalling 2010. Is there another way to solve the problems I've been having? I'd be most grateful for some help in doing so.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:40 pm 
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Tools/Automatic Hyphenation is a document setting, both in TextMaker 2010 and 2012, and in Microsoft Word, too. If you want to get rid of hyphenation forever, open your default document template (usually Normal.tmv), turn hyphenation off, save it, and base future documents on it.

I cannot get TextMaker to add extra hyphens to the left or right of an em-dash or an en-dash. Both TM 2010 and 2012 behave alike here. Can you send a sample document where this happens to forum (at) softmaker.de ?

[EDIT: Upon re-reading your post, I see that you talked of two consecutive dashes. TextMaker 2012 indeed puts the first dash on the old line, and the second dash on the following line. But TextMaker 2010 behaved exactly alike. But even Microsoft Word does this. Why don't you use real dashes? Ctrl+(NumPad-) gives you an en-dash, and Ctrl+Alt+(NumPad+) gives you an em-dash. Simulating long dashes with consecutive short dashes is bad, typographically speaking.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:45 pm 
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martin-k wrote:
Tools/Automatic Hyphenation is a document setting, both in TextMaker 2010 and 2012, and in Microsoft Word, too. If you want to get rid of hyphenation forever, open your default document template (usually Normal.tmv), turn hyphenation off, save it, and base future documents on it.

Thank you VERY much for this suggestion. I have now done what you suggest, and I think that solves the problem of having to remember to turn off Automatic Hyphenation with each new document.

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[EDIT: Upon re-reading your post, I see that you talked of two consecutive dashes. TextMaker 2012 indeed puts the first dash on the old line, and the second dash on the following line. But TextMaker 2010 behaved exactly alike. But even Microsoft Word does this. Why don't you use real dashes? Ctrl+(NumPad-) gives you an en-dash, and Ctrl+Alt+(NumPad+) gives you an em-dash. Simulating long dashes with consecutive short dashes is bad, typographically speaking.

I never encountered the problem in TextMaker2010, but perhaps I simply never created a document with a dash at the end of a line. I'm very pleased to know about Ctrl+(NumPad-). I'll try to remember to use that (I might add that your instructions for creating an em-dash don't work on my computer, but I think the en-dash is really what I want). I do wish there were a setting in TextMaker to turn two hyphens into a dash. Before I used TextMaker, I used Microsoft Office, and I think I remember that Word would automatically turn -- into a solid dash, either by default or with a user-controlled setting, I don't recall which. I'm thus very much in the habit of typing -- and would welcome a similar setting in TextMaker. But now that I know about Ctrl+(NumPad-), that's a little less important, at least on my desktop with a numerical keypad. This wouldn't be so easy on my netbook, nor on many laptops.

I'm very grateful to you for your very helpful response. I'd be thrilled if you could also suggest solutions to the problems I've been having with TextMaker's mishandling of hyperlinks, as I explained in an earlier posting to the forum.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:58 am 
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cyberdiva wrote:
I do wish there were a setting in TextMaker to turn two hyphens into a dash. Before I used TextMaker, I used Microsoft Office, and I think I remember that Word would automatically turn -- into a solid dash, either by default or with a user-controlled setting, I don't recall which. I'm thus very much in the habit of typing -- and would welcome a similar setting in TextMaker.
Nothing is easier: Type an en- or em-dash (depending on which one you want) using the keyboard shortcuts martin-k mentioned, copy it (Ctrl+C), then go to Insert > SmartText.. and click "New..." to create a new SmartText entry. Name it "--" and paste the dash (Ctrl+V) into the big field. Check that "Expand SmartText entries" is selected and that there are no other entries you don't want to be expanded automatically (delete them). SmartText is a very useful feature I use a lot, e.g. for correcting frequent mistypes or creating shortcuts for frequently used words or phrases.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:07 pm 
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Jossi, many thanks!! I'm delighted to know about this.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:15 pm 
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Having same problem with turning "Auto Hyphenation" off. Did a system search for Normal.tmv and deleted all but the one in My Documents. Set "Auto Hyphenation" off and set font to Arial 12 pt. I directed the program to that template. When I edit that template, Auto Hyphenation is off and font is Arial 12. But, when I start a new document it goes back to the Times 10 font and Auto Hyphenation "On". When I do a "File" "Open" to edit the Normal.tmv, it looks ok.
Still each time I edit a document I have to manually turn off the Auto Hyphen feature. I can turn Auto Hyphen off and save the document. When I open it again the Auto Hyphen is "On" again. When I start a new document I also have to set the font to Arial 12. I am sure I am overlooking something. But that feature/bug keeps me going back to Word.


cyberdiva wrote:
martin-k wrote:
Tools/Automatic Hyphenation is a document setting, both in TextMaker 2010 and 2012, and in Microsoft Word, too. If you want to get rid of hyphenation forever, open your default document template (usually Normal.tmv), turn hyphenation off, save it, and base future documents on it.

Thank you VERY much for this suggestion. I have now done what you suggest, and I think that solves the problem of having to remember to turn off Automatic Hyphenation with each new document.

martin-k wrote:
[EDIT: Upon re-reading your post, I see that you talked of two consecutive dashes. TextMaker 2012 indeed puts the first dash on the old line, and the second dash on the following line. But TextMaker 2010 behaved exactly alike. But even Microsoft Word does this. Why don't you use real dashes? Ctrl+(NumPad-) gives you an en-dash, and Ctrl+Alt+(NumPad+) gives you an em-dash. Simulating long dashes with consecutive short dashes is bad, typographically speaking.

I never encountered the problem in TextMaker2010, but perhaps I simply never created a document with a dash at the end of a line. I'm very pleased to know about Ctrl+(NumPad-). I'll try to remember to use that (I might add that your instructions for creating an em-dash don't work on my computer, but I think the en-dash is really what I want). I do wish there were a setting in TextMaker to turn two hyphens into a dash. Before I used TextMaker, I used Microsoft Office, and I think I remember that Word would automatically turn -- into a solid dash, either by default or with a user-controlled setting, I don't recall which. I'm thus very much in the habit of typing -- and would welcome a similar setting in TextMaker. But now that I know about Ctrl+(NumPad-), that's a little less important, at least on my desktop with a numerical keypad. This wouldn't be so easy on my netbook, nor on many laptops.

I'm very grateful to you for your very helpful response. I'd be thrilled if you could also suggest solutions to the problems I've been having with TextMaker's mishandling of hyperlinks, as I explained in an earlier posting to the forum.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:29 am 
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I'm almost a complete newbie to the Softmaker suite, but can say that I have not had this issue at all with templates.

I have created a set of templates, each with page size and base font/size set up. e.g. I call them:
A4 Portrait Calibri 12
A4 Portrait Times 12
etc.
For any new document based on those templates they do adopt the styles and settings of that document.
and, I can also use these as the basis for fancier templates that involve logos, chapters etc.

I am using the .tmv template extension when saving template and then TextMaker automatically places these into the templates folder (and I have added further folders to this to suit my needs).

I'm really very impressed by this software; while there's always room for improvement, I've found it it stable, effective - and affordable.
Can't yet get my head around a couple of things but that's another story.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:37 am 
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alfla wrote:
Having same problem with turning "Auto Hyphenation" off. Did a system search for Normal.tmv and deleted all but the one in My Documents. Set "Auto Hyphenation" off and set font to Arial 12 pt. I directed the program to that template. When I edit that template, Auto Hyphenation is off and font is Arial 12. But, when I start a new document it goes back to the Times 10 font and Auto Hyphenation "On". When I do a "File" "Open" to edit the Normal.tmv, it looks ok.
Still each time I edit a document I have to manually turn off the Auto Hyphen feature. I can turn Auto Hyphen off and save the document. When I open it again the Auto Hyphen is "On" again. When I start a new document I also have to set the font to Arial 12. I am sure I am overlooking something. But that feature/bug keeps me going back to Word.


Please try the following:

1. Rename the folder "SoftMaker" in "My Documents" (e.g. to "SoftMaker_old")
2. Start TextMaker (all settings should be set back to default)
3. Open the correct Normal.tmv for your used language via File=>Open=>Filetype: .tmv
4. Once you are sure that you have the correct Normal.tmv open, invoke Format=>Paragraph Style=>Select "Normal" and then click on "Edit"
5. Make your settings, click on "Ok" and save the Normal.tmv

Does that work?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:06 pm 
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Tried the suggestion, but didn't work. Uninstalled Softmaker and reinstalled, still didn't work. Uninstalled and manually cleaned all the "Softmaker" entries from the registry, deleted every Softmaker directory in my system, and reinstalled, then edited Normal.tmv .
Now new documents shows Arial 12 and Auto Hyphen is off.
But if I open an old document it still shows Auto Hyphen is on.
Set to off, close document open again Auto Hyphen is set to on again.
Seems like a simple issue, maybe I'm expecting too much.

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alfla wrote:
Having same problem with turning "Auto Hyphenation" off. Did a system search for Normal.tmv and deleted all but the one in My Documents. Set "Auto Hyphenation" off and set font to Arial 12 pt. I directed the program to that template. When I edit that template, Auto Hyphenation is off and font is Arial 12. But, when I start a new document it goes back to the Times 10 font and Auto Hyphenation "On". When I do a "File" "Open" to edit the Normal.tmv, it looks ok.
Still each time I edit a document I have to manually turn off the Auto Hyphen feature. I can turn Auto Hyphen off and save the document. When I open it again the Auto Hyphen is "On" again. When I start a new document I also have to set the font to Arial 12. I am sure I am overlooking something. But that feature/bug keeps me going back to Word.


Please try the following:

1. Rename the folder "SoftMaker" in "My Documents" (e.g. to "SoftMaker_old")
2. Start TextMaker (all settings should be set back to default)
3. Open the correct Normal.tmv for your used language via File=>Open=>Filetype: .tmv
4. Once you are sure that you have the correct Normal.tmv open, invoke Format=>Paragraph Style=>Select "Normal" and then click on "Edit"
5. Make your settings, click on "Ok" and save the Normal.tmv

Does that work?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:14 am 
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alfla wrote:
But if I open an old document it still shows Auto Hyphen is on.
Set to off, close document open again Auto Hyphen is set to on again.
Seems like a simple issue, maybe I'm expecting too much.


Changing the Normal.tmv only affects new created files that are based on the Normal.tmv, not existing files. In which file format (.doc, .tmv, .txt) are you saving your files?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:42 pm 
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I think you answered my question. I am saving as .HTML. Shouldn't I still be able to turn off auto hyphenation.
Thanks for the response

sven-l wrote:
alfla wrote:
But if I open an old document it still shows Auto Hyphen is on.
Set to off, close document open again Auto Hyphen is set to on again.
Seems like a simple issue, maybe I'm expecting too much.


Changing the Normal.tmv only affects new created files that are based on the Normal.tmv, not existing files. In which file format (.doc, .tmv, .txt) are you saving your files?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:03 am 
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HTML files cannot store such information. Please use .doc or .tmd file format to save your settings.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:51 pm 
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Thanks.



sven-l wrote:
HTML files cannot store such information. Please use .doc or .tmd file format to save your settings.


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