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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:06 pm 
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The attached file is a result of converting pdf file to rtf format (with nemo pdf to word). It's a bit messy but it has very complicated formatting (even though it's not necessary) so I thought it would be good for testing ;)

TextMaker 2012 has some problems with column and/or section breaks (I think) - in original pdf file has 4 pages and there is a table at page 3. Textmaker displays 8 pages (page 3 is streched on 4 pages!). The file looks much better in TextMaker Viewer but there's also one extra page.

Also there are some problems when I save the file in other formats:
- docx - the file loading time is very long, but it looks exactly like rtf
- tmd - loads a bit faster than docx and has larger file size
- odt - smallest file size but the file looks completely different, like if all formatting was removed - are ther any limitations on odf files that prevent saving very complicated formatting?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:22 am 
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Before I look at this, were you hoping to have a pdf file convert perfectly into a tm document? That's what is sounds like... That's a pretty tall order... not saying it can't eventually be done, but basically, it's like asking a word processor to become an OCR and include it's spacing from a picture is it not? The problem I see with this, is the programmers would have to interpret correctly spacing... ie., was it two columns? three? how many rows? vs.... no table at all.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:48 am 
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Nope, the issue here is not PDF conversion. The file is a result of conversion so, as you said, it's not perfect and has some complicated formatting. After conversion I checked how the file looks in different word processors. Same file looks different in Word, Writer and TextMaker.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:45 pm 
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Can you upload the original pdf and the files you converted for comparison? Thanks. Opening in Word appears to give a minor issues but I need to see the pdf to be sure.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:29 pm 
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It must be my bad English because I think I'm not understood here. Sorry. I'll try to make myself clear.

The point here is not how good/bad the file was converted from pdf format. This was just additional info for developers which *may* be important. I'm not complaining about quality of conversion.

I was compairing how the file attached in my first post is displayed in different programs. I noticed that TextMaker has some problems with column and/or section breaks on page 3 - it displays contents of that one page on 4 extra pages (so original 4 page file has 8 pages in TextMaker). OpenOffice displays that page more less corectly (it removes almost all formatting and makes it generally look bad, but the file has 4 pages in OOo). Microsoft Word 2007, TextMaker 2010 (and TextMaker Viewer) display one extra page - so there may be an error somewhere on that page.

I'm not sure what is the source of this problem, but since we want TextMaker be compatible with MS Word I thought I post this here.


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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 6:35 am 
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There is no problem with your English. The point that I was trying to make was, it is difficult to ascertain where different issues might be without a source file. This will allow them to see the original formatting and where the issues might begin. Hope that helps. So, if you could upload the pdf, that would be helpful.

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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 7:01 am 
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Original formatting in pdf file is different than in rtf :roll:
Anyway here's the file.


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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:55 pm 
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xwarren wrote:
The attached file is a result of converting pdf file to rtf format (with nemo pdf to word). It's a bit messy but it has very complicated formatting (even though it's not necessary) so I thought it would be good for testing ;)

TextMaker 2012 has some problems with column and/or section breaks (I think) - in original pdf file has 4 pages and there is a table at page 3. Textmaker displays 8 pages (page 3 is streched on 4 pages!). The file looks much better in TextMaker Viewer but there's also one extra page.


I could reproduce this problem here. TextMaker 2012 shows 8 pages, MS Word 2010 shows only 5 pages and the table on page 3 does not look correct. I informed the developers to fix this. Thank you!

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:59 pm 
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xwarren wrote:
Also there are some problems when I save the file in other formats:
- docx - the file loading time is very long, but it looks exactly like rtf
- tmd - loads a bit faster than docx and has larger file size
- odt - smallest file size but the file looks completely different, like if all formatting was removed - are ther any limitations on odf files that prevent saving very complicated formatting?


Could you please attach the .docx file to reproduce the problem here? Thank you!

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 4:36 pm 
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I might have exaggerated a bit saying the loading time is very long. The rtf file is loaded in 5 seconds max, but it takes 20-30 seconds to load docx file on my PC. The file has only 4 pages (8 in TextMaker ;p). I haven't checked that file in Word yet.

I save most of my documents in odt format so this is very important for me. TextMaker doesn't change formatting when saving to odt but it won't save autoshapes (page borders and 'table' backgrounds in case of this document). I tried to save the file in Open Office - same story. Is this 'fixable'?

Thank you!


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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 10:13 am 
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thank you! I will informed the developers.

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 9:44 am 
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This problem has been solved and will not occur any longer in the next service pack.

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